PTB #16a: Dialog on PTB with Bob Jones and Others of the Southern Baptist Group on Facebook.

Since this Preaching thru the Bible in one year was started a few months ago, many have impressed interest in the Sermons, and a few have expressed the concern that there is no way justice can be done to the Bible in one year.  Those kinds of comments have received the response, “Check it out, the key is first to outline the Bible according to the OT quotes in the NT.”  So it is thought that a little justification for this Bible method should be considered at this point, mainly to show that the 12 Master Tables (the outline) do adequately represent the message of the Bible.  Of course, it must be started with one of the tables, and since in the sequence we are now up to and about with this message ready to complete Table 4 for Top Topic 4 on the subject of “Man, Son of Man, and Son of God”, what better place to jump into the justification as adequate to cover the Bible.

You have noticed from the last sermon, PTB 15, that the column headings were discussed of (1) The Gospel proclaimed in the OT, since you are aware that “God (Himself) preached the gospel to Abraham; (2)  Gospel in Matthew is more obvious since it is called the Gospel of Matthew, but less obvious is the number of extensive quotes in Matthew, not only from Jesus, but also the tax collector from a more human side kept good records of what Jesus said and quoted;  (3) If you revel in Hebrews and Romans, you will find that therein from the lawyer and missionary, the Apostle Paul and the Holy Spirit, their decision was made to include many, many quotes for the OT, and we must then consider in the nature of the perfection of God the Holy Spirit that those quotes are not only the most important from the OT to be included in the NT, but they are representative of the original Gospel to be proclaimed in the OT like Abraham received the Gospel preached to him by God Himself (you can hardly go wrong on that Source); (4) the Gospel in Luke was selected because it originally came from Paul leaving a manuscript for Dr. Luke to write a Gospel, being part of Paul’s work at Tarsus, in the 7 so called silent years, of making a list of quotes to be included in the NT, and as he did not have the chance as with Mark to write the Gospels himself except thru John Mark and Dr. Luke with many of those quotes, valle, we have Mark and Luke; and (5) it was noted in the Bible research of the Bible Itself, a noted recommendation for the critics in theology, that Mark was a brief, concise, appendix to the Bible, a clincher if you would.

The Gospel of John, one of our favorites, will be used in this message to justify the Outline of the Bible in Table 4 (Topic 4) as adequate on both the Gospel and the Bible; that is, if you think the Gospel of John is within itself adequate on the Gospel:

And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; 31 but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.”  (John 20:39)

Certainly that is adequate on the Bible, if you do read and hear the Gospel of John, if you do believe that Jesus is both the Christ, the Promised Messiah, and the very indeed Son of God; and that having believed with a measure of faith for salvation all the way to life in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, so what could be more adequate than this Bob Jones.

I.  In previous books and messages, it has been found sufficient to summarize the book of John around the only 7 miracles of John (Bob, do you know that).  The “7 messages on the 7 miracle signs of John” is chapter 25 of the SunGrist book on BIBLE REPORTS FOR BELIEVING.

NOTE:  It is not clear from his Profile in FB how much Bible training Bob has received in his life, but he is a very active and aggressive lay person from Graham NC, on the southern Baptist group of FB, and perhaps a deacon as he has so much confidence to be outspoken with preachers and teachers.  It is good for Baptist to be like that as long as they are sincerely searching the scriptures to make sure what they say is true.

“How do the 7 miracle signs of the Gospel of John relate to me?” was a recent Bible search question on one of the websites of SunGrist_Bible.  So important is this to the very gist of this book, BIBLE REPORTS FOR BELIEVING, that it must be answered with the highest priority; and in this last chapter of the book.  This chapter is addressed to you surfer of the web, and of that question, as well as the many who delve into this book or the Gospel of John itself without realizing the personal significance of the messages and stated purpose of John to them.  If you see the messages of the miracles, you are ready for the salvation, now in this life and forever, of the stated purpose of John.

“And truly Jesus did many other signs in the presence of His disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are written that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and that believing you may have life in His name.”  (John 20:30,31)

Perhaps the problem with seeing the personal nature of the Gospel of John, from the stated purpose or from reading the Gospel for yourself, or even reading about the Gospel of John in this book, is a failure to understand how ORGANIZED is the Gospel of John.  Even that a book of the Bible would so clearly express the gist or purpose for the writing of that book shows a high degree of planning and organization:  (1) that of all the miracles performed by Jesus, only 7 are selected to be in the Gospel of John; (2) these seven are carefully chosen and the whole life and teachings, with focused messages centered around each miracle–before the miracle is recorded, after the miracle is recorded, or both– are also chosen as part of the organization of the Gospel {it is not that the Apostle John, an eyewitness of the whole public ministry of Jesus, in any way changed the sequence of the life and teachings as lived by Jesus of Nazareth, nor can not be harmonized with the synoptic gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke–which by the way were in the possession of Pastor John as he wrote from Ephesus near the end of the first century–it is just that Jesus taught so much and performed so many miracles, that it was easy to chose 7 messages to go with 7 miracles; also assisted by the fact, as often stated by Jesus that the miracles were like signposts to point to the teachings and eventually to God the Father, Who gave the teachings to Jesus and sent Him for the purpose of making them known as well as for dying on the cross for the sins of the world, then showing that resurrection was possible though faith in Jesus as the firstfruits of a resurrection from God}; and (3) so that all miracle signs, all teaching signs, all signs of character, all signs of actions such as cross and resurrection are carefully chosen to generate the two steps of believing in salvation:

      a.  To believe initially that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and

    b.  To practice the “Continuing Faith” of believing, the One Baptism of the One Salvation, in order to have abundant life now, like a flowing fountain of living water, and forever salvation on the New Earth with all of God’s New Creation and with God and Christ themselves as Gentiles are planted on the New Earth surrounding the New Jerusalem of saved Jews, the Apostles, and God and Christ.

NOTE:  The focus will narrow here.

25-1:  Top Message of 7 Miracles is Faith in Jesus as Co-Creator of Universe.

If even one of the miracles, like the turning of water into wine or the causing the lame man to walk, creates enough faith in Jesus in your heart for salvation, then the top message of the Gospel of John, and the miracles of John–that is, to get you to believe all the way to salvation–has been achieved for you personally.  Even as Phillips made clear years ago in the book YOUR GOD IS TOO SMALL, that the God of this Universe, of the Bible and the Father of Jesus, knows radar, computers, science and technology with the arts and higher education, so Jesus was an expert then as now on all the sciences and human knowledge; and once you have come to see Jesus as the “Word” of the introduction of John 1, the “Him” of “All things were made by Him, and without Him was not anything made that was made” (John 1:1), then you will have no problem with the fact that Jesus, in spite of some accepted limitations as God-man, the Son of Man and the Son of God, could easily transcend all the norm in natural and biological science to do miracles; and consequently go step by step, and all the way, to faith in Jesus as both the Christ, the Promised Messiah, and as the Son of God.  Even as the miracles demand attention that they have to come from God Himself, so the works with a total of four witnesses mentioned by Jesus in His teachings; and the first that you might really consider as 8 messages on the 7 miracles, as it is at the top book level of the book of John, as works from God the Father Himself were witnesses to Jesus.  John the Baptist was a witness to Jesus as “the lamb of God that takes away the sins of the world” (John 1:29); the existing Scriptures testified often to Jesus point by point as He fulfilled the predictions and other prophesy of the Old Testament, especially of Isaiah; and Jesus with a sterling character and life claimed to be the Son of God.  However in John 5, in the continuing teaching ministry of Jesus as given to Him by the Father, Jesus puts at the top of the list of witnesses to His Sonship as the Son of God the works from God:

“But I have a greater witness than John’s; for the works which the Father has given Me to finish–the very works that I do–bear witness of Me, that the Father has sent Me.”  (John 5:36)

25-2:  Message on “Wine”  to go with the Miracle of the Wedding Feast.

1.  The Miracle of Water into Wine.

Surely you recall that the first miracle of Jesus in the Gospel of John was the turning of water into wine, John 2, a miracle of (1) concern for a family and of personal interests in the routine affairs of life; (2) a miracle that engendered faith in the first disciples that became Apostles and spread the Gospel.  Well, guess what the message on wine is not in John, but in the three other Gospels of Matthew, Mark, and Luke.  These gospels that the Apostle John as Pastor at Ephesus had in his possession at the time of John writing, had not doubt referenced to people often, even taught and preached from; so that not only is John recommending to you the reading of these synoptic gospels, also acknowledge their authority as Scriptures from God, but also forcing you to go to one or more of them to get your message on the first miracle, the message on wine to go with the miracle on turning water into wine.  Hey, the Word Who created grapes and the fermenting process, and Who created water, why should He not also be the Lord over Wine and Water and Nature.

2. Jesus’ Message on Wine in Matthew 9, Mark 2, and Luke 5.

For our message on the first miracle, and on wine, we will briefly look at Matthew 9.

FASTING LIKE THE PHARISEES DID WAS OKAY, AND THEIR TRADITIONS AND RELIGION, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE JESUS RIGHT THERE WITH YOU, THEN YOU HAVE THE NEW WINE AND NEW WINESKINS.

NOTE:  MESSAGE #1 of Miracle #1:  Jesus, like new wine and new wineskins, has priority in life, church, and salvation, yea in personal relationships with God, over religion, tradition, and community practices.

25-3:  Message on Life to go with the Healing of the Nobleman Son.

1.  The second miracle, number two {see John 4:54), where Jesus restored the life of the Nobleman’s son from a distance.

Even as we sometimes do not have the “warm fuzzy” of nearness of God and Jesus, we note that among other things Jesus performed this miracle of healing at a distance.  Jesus was back in Cana where He had previously turned the water into wine, and the Nobleman’s son, at the point of death, was over in Capernaum, so that when Jesus declared to the man, “Go your way, your son lives” (John 4:50), the results were both instant in time and at a distance as the record records that when the Nobleman arrived home to hear that all was well with his son, and asked when he began to amend, it was the same time Jesus said remotely, “your son lives”.

2.  A Message on Life from the Gospel of John.

“I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly”.  (John 10:10)

Really, if we are faithful to the text and the context, we will admit:  (1) that the life now is life, and (2) the abundant life like the water of life on which Jesus so often taught, like to the woman at the well of Samaria, that gushes out into everlasting water and life, was that of eternal salvation and life; and (3) we will recognize in context that this is the second half of a verse, and of a teaching of Jesus to contrast how is the “door of life” and how the many who came before Him were thieves.  The first part of John 10:10 is:

“The thief does not come except to steal, and to kill, and to destroy.  I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.”  (John 10:10)

Jesus is the great miracle giver of full time and abundant forever life.  He is the Master of Life and of miracles of life.  Of course, the ultimate life that He will give you personally is the resurrection from the dead as Jesus is also Lord over life and death, but more to come on that in the last miracle of bringing Lazarus out of the grave and from death.

25-4:  A Message on Health for Healing of the Man of Infirmity 38 years.

In this day and time when the false Gospel of Health and Prosperity has sweep the nation, perhaps a little less this year as many church members suddenly realize that they have lost their prosperity and still have faith, it is good to look carefully at the scripture about faith-healing by Jesus of the man who could not walk because of an infirmity of 38 years.

1.  Obviously there had been some efforts at faith healing by the man and his associates during those long-suffering years of 38 years.

Since someone had placed him by the pool of Bethesda at the sheep gate of Jerusalem in the midst of the multitude of sick people for the stirring of the water by an angel and healing.  (John 5:1-4)  Although they were too busy to stay with him, since his complaint to Jesus that there was not one to help him to the water after the stirring of the angel.

2.  It is obvious that God, like always in history, was active in faith healing business because at a “certain time” an angel from God and heaven would come down to stir the waters, and the first one by the pool to step in would be healed.

     (1).  As early as Job, no doubt the earliest book and Prophet of the Bible, God is known to have healed Job; because with his restored of family, prosperity, and status came also healing. 

“And the LORD restored Job’s losses when he prayed for his friends.  Indeed the LORD gave Job twice as much as he had before.”  (Job 42:10)

It is not coincidental but incidental that when Job was completely restored, health and wealth, it was after “he prayed for his friends”.  How often in so-called faith healing meetings do the sick come forward for healing and pause to pray for their friends.  Well, in reality is like the healing of God, most generally can not be sudden and in a meeting, but over a period of time as that is the preferred manner in which God always works in the Bible.    Why get another involved of questionable righteousness with obvious dominant motivations toward status and wealth, when it is your own faith and prayer to God that will heal you.  Don’t be surprised, however, in the full context of Bible teachings on the subject of faith healing if the answer to your prayer and faith is not healing, like with Paul who prayed several times that he is thorn in the flesh would be removed, and the answer was not in healing; and Job who suffered righteously for no wrong which he had done.  If God answered all feeble prayers there would be little death and dying in the world; which points out the collective human race and history long curse on the world, nature and humans, because of the original sin that distorted, maimed, and made so many wrongs in the beautiful world that God first created.  And on top of that long term, and eventually terminating curse from God, there is also the obvious collective curse {curse, remember is the opposite of a blessing and series of blessings}  on America since 911–and which now after all the droughts, fires, floods, hurricanes, has touched every home in the economic crisis, making it opposite that like in Jeremiah, Isaiah, and so many other books of the Bible, God is involved in the chastisement of this nation in order to restore righteousness and the effective, fervent prayer that goes with it.  In other words, while your lack of healing may not be because of wrongs which you have done, it could be from the wrongs of your society or of the human race; and you are just fortunate enough to be both American, human, and a church member.

     (2).  Elijah healed people by way of the power of God and the prayers for friends; and surely in Israel through the years, there were many other examples of healing by God on a one-to-one basis where it did not hit the news, even the news of the Bible, just the 7,000 who did not bow the knee to Baal about whom God told Elijah were not known to Elijah or the public.

3.  The consistent healing of the multitude before and after Jesus was on a first come first serve basis much like our hospitals today.  Only the first of the multitude to step into the pool after the stirring of the water was healed; and the kinds of sicknesses of the multitude was great:  blind, lame, paralyzed, and just plain sick.  (John 5:3)

4.  In the historical context of the day, we should realize that in Palestine and the Roman Empire were medical doctors like Dr. Luke who traveled with Paul and therefore was the resident, or itinerant physician for the whole evangelistic team; and to boot, the author from the human side of two of the books of the New Testament, Luke and Acts.

5.  Evidently, also like today, many in the multitude needed an illness to have something to talk about, or needed some attention as Jesus must have had that in mind as He asked the man with the infirmity of 38 years, “Do you want to be made well?”  (5:6)

6.  Jesus after the man explained his helplessness to get to the water, since he was so slow, perhaps even crawling–and the helplessness was because he had no family or friends to be there and help him–told the man, “Rise, take up your bed and walk!”  (5:8)

7.  The man did not even know Who healed Him by name as when the Jewish leaders questioned him about the violation of the Sabbath because of the healing on the Sabbath; however later Jesus found him in the Temple (5:13,14), telling him, “See, you have been made well {it took some time for the man and others to know}.  Sin no more, lest a worst thing come upon you.”

Do not misunderstand, for often Jesus would correct His disciples who held like the religious people around them, the false concept that either the man or his family had sinned and that was the reason for the illness.  However, the worse thing like for all who sin, was that habitual and continuous sin could lead to death and the second death of eternal damnation.

8.  It was Jesus, the man told all, that made him well.  (5:14)  And you bet that Jesus heals today, forgives from sin, and makes people whole and well both physically and spiritually; and like for other cases of healing in John and the rest of the Bible, for the glory of God.  You might try the method of faith healing that worked here, and in the privacy of prayer between you and God as God likes to hear and honors prayer from hidden places since He is the hidden God, pray for your friends, and expect healing!

25-5:  Fourth Miracle-Sign and Message on Bread and Living Bread.

1.  The Miracle and the Message.

John has made it easy for you to get both the message and the impact of the miracle on bread in John 5, the miracle is recorded in John 1:1-14 where Jesus feed five thousand men, besides women and children, with five barley loaves of bread and two fishes {by the way Jesus the Word also co-created the fishes of the sea on the fifth day}, the teaching by Jesus on Himself as the bread of life that others must personally eat is in John 6:22-40, where with hard sayings, difficult to understand, and which many current disciples could not accept and turned away from following Jesus {John 6:41-71)

“And Jesus said to them, ‘I am the bread of life.  He who comes to Me shall never hunger; and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.”  (John 6:35)

By the way, this has both an apparent implication for faith and one in the more abundant category for faith:  as Jesus amplified on in the Sermon on the Mount, those who believe will never go hungry for sufficient bread during their life–recall the “seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added unto you”  (Matthew 6:33); and you see the eternal promise of “never hunger” and “never thirst” based on “he who believes in Me”.

2.  Is this too hard for you, as it was too hard for many of the disciples that for a short time followed Jesus (John 6:41-71)

     a.  Jesus was rejected by the religious leaders of His own Jewish nation.  (6:41-59)

     b.  Many followers turned away from discipleship but still attended the church {Temple}  (6:60-71).

They could take believing for a little while, but not in the long run.  And even as they no doubt first heard Jesus in the Temple before they began following Him, they no doubt also went back to faithful House of God worship as a substitute for discipleship with Jesus when they stopped following Him.  What was so hard for them?  To eat the flesh and drink the blood of Jesus; but once again Jesus was speaking in parables that were hard to understand in order that those only designated by the Spirit of God could understand.  In order that the kingdom of God and Christ could no longer be taken by force, but only with the proper attitude of repentance and faith.  However, Jesus explained it to them just before they went away, primarily for the benefit of the 11 out of 12 {of the 12 that Jesus “called”, one, Judas was not “chosen”} that remained:

“It is the Spirit who gives life;the flesh profits nothing.  The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.”  (John 5:63)

     c.  Then Jesus explained what the real problem was with disciples that could not go all the way in Lordship and discipleship.  It was a lack of “Continuing Faith” which prayerfully you have come to understand and did understand in the reading of that chapter on “Continuing Faith”.  And the in the verse below has both tenses of “believe” and “believing”, alias “to believe” and “for believing”, initial faith and continuing faith.

“But there are some of you who do not believe.”  (John 6:64a)

25-6:  A Message on Weather for Jesus’ Wind and Waves Control.

1.  Jesus had a lot to say to the religious leaders of His day of how they could discern the weather by the face of the sky but could not see the signs of the times predicted in Scripture.

2.  Jesus tried to give some perspective of the eternal being that He was and is, some perspective on Himself as the eternal Co-Creator of the Universe as He compared the puny understanding of scholars on science and the universe as He stated about the weather, “that you don’t even know where the winds come from.;”

25-7:  A Message on Spiritual Blindness to Go with Healing of the Blind.

1.  In this day and time when doctors can so easily do lens transplants, and other out patient surgeries, the healing of the blind does not seem nearly as miraculous as in the days of Jesus; but this was then, even as now, a special case as the man was “blind from birth”  (9:1)

2. It was here that Jesus rectified a false concept of the community that the man was blind because he or his family had sinned.  (9:2)  Neither, Jesus said, “but that the works of God might be revealed in him.”  (9:3)

3.  Jesus shared His own urgency to do the very works of God, and for the glory of God the Father, for the time He had left to be in the world.  (9:4)

4.  While in the world, Jesus clearly identified Himself as “the light of the world”  (9:5)

5.  When Jesus heard that the Jews cast the man out for sass (9:13-34), and because of the false belief that he was “completely born in sins”, also because of pride because the man tried to teach them something because they did not know Who Jesus was in spite of the miracle done by him, and His obvious connection with God the Father, Jesus sought him out and found him.

     (1).  “Do you believe in the Son of God?”  (John 9:35)

     (2).  “Who is He, Lord, that I may believe in Him?”  (John 9:36)

     (3).  The dialogue between the blind man from birth and Jesus.

“And Jesus said to him, ‘You have both seen Him and it is he who is talking with you.”  (9:37)

     (4).  More dialogue.

            a.  “Then he said, ‘Lord, I believe!’  And he worshipped him.”  (9:38)

          b.  However you can tell what Jesus said next, like often in His teachings to go with the attention gained from His miracles, that Jesus was as much talking to the crowd and His disciples as to the man.

“And Jesus said, “For judgment I have come into this world, that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may be made blind.”  (John 9:39)

          c.  The listening Pharisees took it personally, as should they and as should all that read these teachings of Jesus centered around the miracle-sign of the man blind from birth.

“Then some of the Pharisees who were with Him heard these words, and said to Him, ‘Are we blind also?’”  (John 9:40)

“Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no sin; but now you say, “We see.’  Therefore your sin remains.”  (John 9:41)

25-8:  The Holy Spirit took over in the world for Light After Jesus.

When Jesus said that He was the light of the world as long as He was in the world, the implication was that the Holy Spirit would come to take His place, as He clearly taught later in John 14-16.  And above when Jesus said that He came into the world for judgment, it also implied that later the Holy Spirit would take over that judgment.

“And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:  of sin, because they do not believe in Me; of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.”  (John 16:8-11)

Believe me, today, when you see the light of the truth, receive the forgiveness of sins, and recognize that all are judged accountable to God and Jesus, it is by the work of the Holy Spirit; but do not delay belief, as both the heart can become too hardened–thus the Bible always says “today is the day of salvation”, and because near the end of the Falling Away the Holy Spirit is going to be withdrawn from this earth, an historical happening as certain and momentous as the original coming of the Spirit in great power and presence on the first day of Pentecost after the Ascension of Christ.  In fact, so historical as to mark the beginning and end of the “last days” of the Bible, terminated with wholesale gathering from the four corners of the earth by angels, separation and the passing of eternal judgment; and the ushering in of the New Earth with a New People chosen and saved from each generation of history, one by one and two by two.

25-9:  On Resurrection and Life to go with the Raising of Lazarus.

You know, when you have gone all the way with seriousness of both initial faith, to believe in Jesus as the Christ, the Son of God; and continued for a few years in the continuing faith of for believing, on into spiritual maturity where you have “your senses exercised to discern” and partake of the spiritual meat of the Bible and prayer, these miracles of Jesus and the proofs and evidences of their validity from the Co-Creator of the Universe will become less and less important to you.  So great will be the personal fellowship in prayer and Bible of this Risen and Ascended Christ, and with God the Father, that such needs for initial faith and evidences, in spite of the fact that “faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen”, or because your personal faith provides both the substance and evidence of these spiritual matters like God, Christ, the new birth, and the being and becoming like Christ, that the miracles sort of fad in the background.

1.  The death of Lazarus was just as common as the death of any today, or of any previously, except he was fortunate enough to know Jesus; but common in that like all, while the body is and looks dead, the soul and spirit continue to live, and like Jesus calls it “sleep”.

“Our friend Lazarus sleeps, but I go that I may wake him up…Then Jesus said to them plainly, ‘Lazarus is dead.’”  (John 11:11-15)

2.  Good ole Thomas like his environment had the standard concept and answer about death, “Let us also go, that we may die with Him.’”  (11:16)

3.  Dialogue between Martha, the sister of Lazarus, and Jesus.

      (1).  The faith of Martha in Jesus for life and healing.

“Now Martha said to Jesus, ‘Lord, if You had been here, my brother would not have died.  But even now I know that whatever You ask of God, God will give you.’”  (John 11:21,22)

     (2).  Double meaning in the one on one teaching of Jesus to Martha and the listening disciples like so many teachings of Jesus and of all Bible predictions.

“Jesus said to her, ‘Your brother will rise again.”  (11:23)

The big difference with Lazarus was that he had to go through three resurrections: this first for at least a few more years where He had to put up with the same old body, the second of his soul and spirit only, as at death his soul went instantly to be with God and Jesus; and the third at the Second Coming of Christ as with all except those who died the death of a martyr, he received a new resurrection body.  Yes, Jesus did both almost at one time; although He in spirit during the three days in the grave, did go preach to all those people of history held captive in Hades, and in order to give them like the thief on the cross a second chance.

     (3).  For Martha and for all present, and for John and other Apostles to record for Bible Reports in the Bible that we could read, and for the Holy Spirit to use in our hearts and lives, Jesus said to her.

“I am the resurrection and the life.  He who believes in Me, though he may die {sleep}, he shall live.  And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die {the second death}.  Do you believe this?’”  (John 11:26)

     (5).  Martha for us all.

“She said to Him, ‘yes, Lord, I believe that You are the Christ, the Son of God, who is to come into the world.”  (John 11:27)

And you can not honestly tell me that when you read these recorded words from Jesus, if indeed you carefully read them, that you heart was not warmed.  Well, that is the work of the Holy Spirit!

II.  Isaiah quotes in the Gospel of John.

John 1:23 Voice in wilderness (Isaiah 40:3)


John 6:45 All be taught of God (Isaiah 54:13)


John 12:38 Who has believed our report? (Isaiah 53:1)


John 12:39 Closed eyes and ears (Isaiah 6:10)

{Above is thanks to simplify bible from Australia online at https://www.simplybible.com/f591-isaiah-in-new-testament.htm

III.  Table 4 for Top 4, “Man, Son of Man, and Son of God”

NOTE:  At this point it would be wise for you to watch the PowerPoint slides on Son of Man/Son of God, to help in the summary to follow.  SunGrist link is http://biblecombibleman.com/SonOfManSonOfGod.pdf .

4-1:  How God deals with men and with man {women and men} Through Christ!

4-2:  God the Creator and Father looks at man, men, and then testifies to men.

NOTE:  Man is a generic name of male and female, man and women, in the Bible.  See Genesis 1:27 where God created man, “created them”, male and female and in His own image.

4-3:  What Can God tell us about ourselves as men and women?

4-4.  When God Looks Down from Heaven.

What did God find during the time of David and before when He looked down from heaven to take a close look at man.  {I suspect this was and is all the time, many like to call it “omniscience of God” for the all-seeing capability of God from heaven as He sits up there on the great white throne with His feet in the clouds.}

1.  Psalm 14:1-3:  (1) God found fools who said in their hearts that there is no God; (2) He found a corrupt humanity of abominable works and an absence of doing good;  (3) When He searched again among men to see if any of man understood and sought God, He found that they all had missed the essential way, found filthiness, and a lack of doing good.

 2.  Romans 3:10.

“As it is written, ‘There is none righteous, not even one; there is none who understands, there is one who seeks for God; All have turned aside, together they have become useless; thee is none who does good, There is not even one.”   (Romans 3:10-12  NASV)

THIS IS HUMANITY WITHOUT FAITH AND RIGHTEOUSNESS THROUGH FAITH, HUMANITY WITHOUT JESUS CHRIST!

4-5:  The Gospel

Now we have the awesome challenge of summarizing the whole Gospel in the Old Testament, Matthew, Paul, Luke, and Mark including not only those from Psalms and Isaiah as we have done previously, but also those quotations from the whole Old Testament in the same four books.  This will be done in Table 1 on the next page and entitled “The Gospel”.  The column headings will be:

Proclaimed        Established        Explained       Reinforced        Appendix

(Old Test.)          (Matthew)       (Heb/Rom)      (Luke)              (Mark)

A short explanation of what these headings for the Table of quotes mean is in order. The Gospel of Jesus is initially set forth in the Old Testament.  Granted most of the citizens in Israel, and Scofield, missed the real meaning because of the veil before their eyes that is removed in a personal experience with Christ, the same veil that the Apostle Paul had over his eyes before the conversion experience on the road to Damascus and of which he wrote in Romans over the eye of his Hebrew brethren before a similar experience with Christ.  In Matthew, the Gospel of Jesus is established.  Jesus quoted often from the Old Testament about the proclamation of the Gospel, and Matthew, an accountant and tax collector, faithfully established in a written record those quotes and teachings from Jesus.  It was the burden of the ministry of the Apostle Paul to explain in Hebrews and Romans what had been proclaimed in the Old Testament about Jesus and what Jesus had established on earth in His teachings as recorded by Matthew. Then when Paul knew that his time of departure was at hand, he left manuscripts for Luke and John Mark with the rest of the Old Testament quotes he recorded at Tarsus for them to wrap up three more books of the New Testament. 

4-14:  The Full Gospel in the Fullness of Time.

Certainly, with the 39 books of the Old Testament, the actual life and teachings of Jesus as He lived on this earth approximately 33 years, and then as Matthew recorded in the Gospel of Matthew that life and those teachings, the Gospel was both PROCLAIMED ON EARTH AND ESTABLISHED ON EARTH.

“In the fullness of time, God sent forth His Son… “

Yet 40 books of Scriptures, 39 Old Testament and 1 New Testament book in Matthew, were not enough; and even while the Ascended Christ through His Spirit was working with His original Apostles to teach them new things and bring all things to their remembrance, He was working in the heart of one Saul of Tarsus to call him as the Apostle to the Gentiles, and Jews; and to make him the Chief Editor of the New Testament, Paul himself writing 14 of 27 of the New Testament books, and through his parchments sponsoring three others.

In one of those 14 books Paul authored from the human side, he explained, like Jesus intended him to do when personal teaching him in Saudi Arabia after his conversion, many things including how Jesus was able to be both Son of Man and Son of God.  (I Corinthians 15:45-49

1.  Jesus Christ as the Son of Man was ordained by God to be “the last Adam”.

     (1).  The first Adam was created by God as a “living being” (I Cor 15:45 and Genesis 2:17).

     (2).  The last Adam, Jesus of Nazareth “became a living giving spirit” by way of His virgin birth, His life and death on the cross for the sins of the world, and by His resurrection.  (I Cor 15:45 plus)

2.  The natural man was first, the first Adam, as God created the universe and man on six days, and the “spiritual man”, the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of Man, was created afterwards, approximately 1 A.D. as He was born in Bethlehem of Palestine of the Roman Empire. (I Cor 15:46 plus)

3.  Even as the first man, Adam, was made out of the earth–God breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and man became a living soul–even so the “Second Man”, this Son of Man, was made from heaven as the power of God overshadowed Mary.  (I Cor 15:47, Genesis 2:7, and Matthew 1:18 plus).

4.  How this Son of Man/Son of God combination applies to us.  (I Cor 15:48,49)

    (1).  We are made of the dust, or elements of the earth, just like the progenitor of all mankind, Adam, was made of the dust.

     (2).  Spiritual likewise we are made of the heavenly man just like He was made heavenly.

“As many as received him to them gave He power to become Sons of God, even to those that believe on His name:  who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.”  (John 1:12,13)

5.  Believers bear “the image”, likeness to, both the man of dust, Adam with a genetic tendency and guilt for sin, and the image of the Heavenly Man, a likeness to whom starts with the new birth, continues year by year with sanctification, and greatly increases with glorification at the resurrection.  (I Cor 15:49 plus)

SPECIAL NOTE FOR BOB  And other doubters:  :    do you get the same message in Top Topic #4 as you get in the Gospel of John, goodness there is even a quote from John 1:12,13.

Conclusion:  Lastly and in Closing we must give some credit to the Gospel of Mark in checking quickly on our thoroughness as representative of the total Bible.

4-10:  A Comparison of Old and New Testament Books for Consistency.

A look back shows that the Apostle James in the book of James and the one quote from Acts references 15 of the 39 Old Testament books.  No bad for one little epistle of 5 chapters!  And incidentally, this illustrates how that if you started taking one little epistle out of the Bible like James the devastating effect it would have on the Bible and the Old Testament; and how in turn the Bible of the Apostles and associates (the New Testament) also establishes the Old Testament as the Word of God!  Now, we are ready to do what our goal was in this chapter:  to compare James with Mark; or more specifically now, to com­pare the Old Testament in James with the Old Testament in Mark.   If you look at even the beginning, you will note that Mark is even an Appendix to James even if we can not buy the hypothesis that Mark was the last book of the Bible to be written.  What is important anyway is that we see Mark as a very good summary of the whole Bible whether we buy the hypothesis or not; and the primary reason is because by the study of Mark we go back to the life and teachings of Jesus which started and concluded the whole New Testament.

That John Mark surrounded the one reference from Exodus in James is also obvious.  And the same in Leviticus.  Both James and John Mark include none from Numbers, and only Mark has some from Deuteronomy.  (If we had not observed previously Note how that with a consideration of only two books in the New Testament, James and Mark, we have accumulated quotes from 21 of the 39 books of the Old Testament.  That is almost 58% of the Old Testament books!  What a tremendous impact the removal of the book of James from the Bible would have on our understanding of the Old Testament books that James explains; and what an effect the removal of any one of these 21 books of the Old Testament would have on likewise removing those quotes from Mark and James.  What is being said in other words, is that the Bible is ONE!

How thorough Mark is on the law of the Pentateuch, except for Numbers, we should do so now; and the reason is that Jesus, who came not to destroy but to fulfil the law and the prophets, quoted so often from the law.)  James does jump ahead on the historical books of the Old Testament, quoting from Joshua while Mark does not, then including two more of the historical books–I Kings and II Chronicles.  However, note how neatly Mark intersperses with I Samuel and I Kings.  Also you should note the compounding nature of the Old Testa­ment in the New Testament (while James alone quotes from 15 Old Testament books with the addition of Mark, there are compounded a total of 19 Old Tes­tament books):  each time another New Testament book is added to the list, not only is there the addition of more books of the Old Testament but also more chapters with as in the case of James and Mark little overlap of chap­ters.  (It is suggestive that when the Apostle John wrote that the “world itself could not contain the books which should be written”, among other things he meant that if the New Testament writers included every single quote in the Old Testament plus the interpretation of those quotes, the number of New Testament books would keep going on without stop!)  They just were not able to get to all of them, but what they did get to are very representative of what God considers most important in the Old Testament to be interpreted in the New Testament.

On Psalms:  Mark quotes five, taking the lead; then James two, and Mark comes back with four more–never a repeat; and then James comes back with two, Mark four, and James concludes on Psalms with 180:3.   As we might suspect Mark is not match for James on Proverbs and “wisdom”, adding only one to the list of James, but that one a semi-Appendix as the next to the last.

     On the Minor Prophets:  Mark slips in ahead of James on Amos with the Prophet Joel; after Isaiah, we will notice on post-Isaiah Minor Prophets, they both quote from Micah–Mark from the same chapter but slightly ahead of James in verses; only Mark quotes from Zechariah; and on the last minor Prophet, Malachi, James has one while Mark quotes twice, and Mark adding on both sides of James. When they both come to the Big Major Prophet, Isaiah.  While James has only two near the end of Isaiah, Mark inserts five before that point.  Then the pattern goes James one, Mark one, James one, and Mark one.  Jeremiah is one for James and three for Mark; and while James quotes once from Daniel, Mark has five.  (All of Mark’s Daniels are ahead of James as if a pre-Appendix.)  Only Mark quotes from Ezekiel.

NOTE 1: As normal you may free download this message from SunGrist at: http://biblecombibleman.com/PTB16DialogWithSouthernBaptist.pdf

NOTE 2: “Bible Reports for Believing, the way of Continuing Faith” was originally written for a Mymar Pastor/Teacher starting a mission to teach Bible. Copies were sent for the class, and the photo on the cover is the Pastor’s wife teaching the children in the mission church. It is available for free download at

http://www.biblecombibleman.com/ReportsWithRivers.pdf

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